And believe it or not, that is the real job of a NASA Administrator, building support for NASA in Congress and among voters. Engineers and managers to run things are always available if you have money and political support.
And engineers have a decidedly mixed track record in jobs that are not primarily about engineering. Herbert Hoover was an engineer. Jimmy Carter was an engineer. Most NASA Administrators have been engineers including Mike Griffin and Sean O’keefe – two of the all-time worst. Gerst is an engineer but was a long-running disaster as a program administrator. Getting rid of him was among Bridenstine’s major accomplishments in office.
Griffin was a first-class disaster as NASA Administrator. Garver was never Administrator at all, though she admittedly played the weak hand she was dealt about as well as it could have been played. But Bridenstine did the same and for multiple hands at once.
As usual, your evaluations are erroneous because of your goofball politics. Bridenstine understood what SLS was going in. He understood that it couldn’t be killed outright, but it could be incrementally marginalized so that’s what he did. He also incrementally rearranged the Moon program so that more and more of it was decoupled from SLS. He got vastly more done at NASA than Charlie Bolden or any of his half-dozen or so predecessors did and managed to do it in maybe 1/3 the time Charlie B. had in the office.
He was the best NASA administrator I’ve ever seen, and I’ve been following NASA for over 20 years. I hope he can find a role in SpaceX, he really loved their drive to actually just build great things…and not just push paper around. He did his best with NASA, it’s hard to steer a bloated pig.
Certainly the best Administrator since Webb; possibly the best ever. But it’s far from obvious his next move will be space-related. It could be, but I think running for statewide office in OK is likelier.
Butting in here… well for me, I would pick the way he responded when the original demo1 crew dragon came apart during the superdraco ground test. I was really expecting that to cause years of delays – if not cancellation. But Musk was able make his case that he could get if fixed and JB decided to go with it and give him a chance to prove it. I think that decision would have gone heavily against the grain with some previous administrators who would have been clutching their pearls.
Yes, Administrator Griffin or Bolden would have put together a review panel that would have held it up for years if not ruling it too dangerous for flight.
Commercial lunar funding including the funding for the Starship as a human lander and the Artemis Accords are his three accomplish, with the Artemis Accords the most important in creating a framework for commercial lunar ventures and lunar settlement.
As for SLS/Ares V, that is a Congressional pork project and nothing is going to stop it until Starship/Super Heavy proves it is worthless.
2 to 1 that even if Starship/Super Heavy works out, the program is not canceled until at least 10 fully operational units have flown. Even odds that it would be 25 operational flights of S/SH before cancellation. There’s a boatload of protected waste out there. Tobacco subsidies to an industry supposedly evil?
That’s the thing, Bob, Bridenstine had so many accomplishments it’s hard to pick a best one. Here’s a list of candidates in no particular order:
1. CLPS 2. Simultaneously moving Gateway off the critical path for Artemis while still keeping it as a hook for post-ISS international cooperation. 3. the Artemis Accords. 4. GLS 5. HLS 6. Freeing Europa Clipper from SLS. 7. Firing Gerst and his SLS honcho. 8. Firing Loverro immediately when he screwed the pooch with Boeing. 9. Promoting Kathy Lueders.
10. Backhanding Boeing instead of making excuses for it when it screwed up. 11. Cutting SLS out of Gateway construction. 12. Pulling SH-Starship into the Artemis program. 13. Relying on SpaceX to get Commercial Crew up even after the ground test explosion instead of doing the “safe” thing and continuing NASA’s long-standing tilt toward Boeing.
Quite a record, I’d say, for a man who was in office less than three years.
go away. you couldnt get SLS to work and were 50/50 on commercial crew.
useless
Yeah, I preferred Griffin and Garver over him.
HOWEVER, with that said, he did a great job on publicity. Far Better than I was expecting out of him.
yeap he seemed to like the Camera nice smile
And believe it or not, that is the real job of a NASA Administrator, building support for NASA in Congress and among voters. Engineers and managers to run things are always available if you have money and political support.
And engineers have a decidedly mixed track record in jobs that are not primarily about engineering. Herbert Hoover was an engineer. Jimmy Carter was an engineer. Most NASA Administrators have been engineers including Mike Griffin and Sean O’keefe – two of the all-time worst. Gerst is an engineer but was a long-running disaster as a program administrator. Getting rid of him was among Bridenstine’s major accomplishments in office.
Yes, the Constellation Program that was created by Dr. Griffin was a real winner, especially the Ares I.
Griffin was a first-class disaster as NASA Administrator. Garver was never Administrator at all, though she admittedly played the weak hand she was dealt about as well as it could have been played. But Bridenstine did the same and for multiple hands at once.
No one will get the SLS to work, it’s a Congressional jobs program and is off limits to anyone one else.
As usual, your evaluations are erroneous because of your goofball politics. Bridenstine understood what SLS was going in. He understood that it couldn’t be killed outright, but it could be incrementally marginalized so that’s what he did. He also incrementally rearranged the Moon program so that more and more of it was decoupled from SLS. He got vastly more done at NASA than Charlie Bolden or any of his half-dozen or so predecessors did and managed to do it in maybe 1/3 the time Charlie B. had in the office.
He was the best NASA administrator I’ve ever seen, and I’ve been following NASA for over 20 years. I hope he can find a role in SpaceX, he really loved their drive to actually just build great things…and not just push paper around. He did his best with NASA, it’s hard to steer a bloated pig.
Certainly the best Administrator since Webb; possibly the best ever. But it’s far from obvious his next move will be space-related. It could be, but I think running for statewide office in OK is likelier.
He sure changed his mind. At one time he proposed automatic keeping him as Administrator.
Farewell Jim, you done good. Only with your successor had half the resolve
curiouis what do you think was his 1 “stand out” accomplishment?
Butting in here… well for me, I would pick the way he responded when the original demo1 crew dragon came apart during the superdraco ground test. I was really expecting that to cause years of delays – if not cancellation. But Musk was able make his case that he could get if fixed and JB decided to go with it and give him a chance to prove it. I think that decision would have gone heavily against the grain with some previous administrators who would have been clutching their pearls.
Yes, Administrator Griffin or Bolden would have put together a review panel that would have held it up for years if not ruling it too dangerous for flight.
Getting international partners to sign Artemis accords. Ensuring the Gateway stays around as an international commitment
Commercial lunar funding including the funding for the Starship as a human lander and the Artemis Accords are his three accomplish, with the Artemis Accords the most important in creating a framework for commercial lunar ventures and lunar settlement.
As for SLS/Ares V, that is a Congressional pork project and nothing is going to stop it until Starship/Super Heavy proves it is worthless.
2 to 1 that even if Starship/Super Heavy works out, the program is not canceled until at least 10 fully operational units have flown. Even odds that it would be 25 operational flights of S/SH before cancellation. There’s a boatload of protected waste out there. Tobacco subsidies to an industry supposedly evil?
Of course, Starship will be too dangerous for NASA astronauts since it doesn’t have an Abort System…
So it will probably launch with a couple dozen private and/or foreign astronauts/journalists and meet with Orion in lunar orbit to land on the Moon. ?
That’s the thing, Bob, Bridenstine had so many accomplishments it’s hard to pick a best one. Here’s a list of candidates in no particular order:
1. CLPS
2. Simultaneously moving Gateway off the critical path for Artemis while still keeping it as a hook for post-ISS international cooperation.
3. the Artemis Accords.
4. GLS
5. HLS
6. Freeing Europa Clipper from SLS.
7. Firing Gerst and his SLS honcho.
8. Firing Loverro immediately when he screwed the pooch with Boeing.
9. Promoting Kathy Lueders.
10. Backhanding Boeing instead of making excuses for it when it screwed up.
11. Cutting SLS out of Gateway construction.
12. Pulling SH-Starship into the Artemis program.
13. Relying on SpaceX to get Commercial Crew up even after the ground test explosion instead of doing the “safe” thing and continuing NASA’s long-standing tilt toward Boeing.
Quite a record, I’d say, for a man who was in office less than three years.