NewSpace 2010: Orbital Spaceflight
Orbital Spaceflight Session
Dennis Stone – NASA Commercial Crew and Cargo
Philip McAlister – NASA Office of Program Analysis and Evaluation
Mark Sirangelo – Sierra Nevada Corp.
Jim Muncy – Space Frontier Foundation
Philip McAlister
NASA Headquarters
Commercial Crew Development (CCDEV) program
- Vision – routine access to space for humans
- NASA fund R&D on multiple systems
- Result would be at least two redundant systems for crew transport
- NASA doesn’t have to be “all-in” on a single system
- CCDEV benefits
- Strengthen the international space station
- Enhance industrial base
- NASA could focus on beyond LEO
Business Case and Commercial Market Potential
- Cannot with a high confidence that we can close the business case for commercial crew
- Looking for commercial providers to put forth proposals
- Unsure how much it’s going to cost
- There is demand for space transportation to and from Earth orbit
- Russia and U.S. have flown 100 astronauts from other countries since 1978
- 8 space tourists have flown to ISS on 9 Soyuz flights
- NASA’s future needs – 8 person flights per year with 4 more from other markets
- Bigelow Aerospace Sundancer space station
- Bigelow – initial 6 flights per year – ramp up to 100 by the end of the decade
- CCDEV Procurement – NASA received over 30 proposals – robust interest level
- Extend the ISS to 2020 and maybe beyond – provides a steady market for transport of goods and crew
Safety Issues and Contracting Models
- Commercial crew mission is much simpler than the Apollo-style
- up and down space transportation and crew rescue in LEO – similar to the Gemini program from nearly 50 years ago
- Rocket vehicles will have a demonstrated flight history through the test program
- NASA will be intimately involved in the development of the systems – not a “hands off†approach
- NASA will establish high level goals and provide commercial companies with maximum flexibility in how to meet those goals
- NASA previously owned the systems and was intimately involved in all details, including specifying what systems and subsystems to use
- Will be intimately involved in understanding the true nature of vehicles being built
- Not a traditional cost-plus contracting but fixed-costs with payments once milestones are met
Mark Sirangelo
Sierra Nevada Corporation
Company Overview
- Company has been around for decades
- “We know how to build things for spaceâ€
- 313 missions to space to date
- Subsystems and components
- Leading provider of small satellites
- Constellation work
- NASA/NOAA Earth observation
- Building Virgin Galactic hybrid motor
Contracting Model for Commercial Crew
- Every company that has worked with NASA is a commercial company
- Instead of cost plus, we’re willing to use a milestone based contract based on fixed costs with contributions from Sierra Nevada Corporation
- Fixed price contract – more of an incentive to bring in project quickly and as safely as possible
- Safety – we need to meet standards – not going to fly unless we do – if we don’t fly, we don’t get paid
Dream Chaser Crew Vehicle
Overview
- $20 million from NASA to fund work
- Vertical takeoff, horizontal landing vehicle
- Crew of 7 – can be configured for human and cargo missions
- Heritage – Soviet BOR-4 and NASA HL-20 vehicle……..
- Same hybrid rocket for use on the SpaceShipTwo engine
- Very effective motor for this application – reusable, restartable motor
- Designed for launch on multiple launch vehicles
- Main launch vehicle: United Launch Alliance’s Atlas V
- Spend several years studying Atlas launches – no show stoppers technically
- Partners: ULA, Draper Labs, Boeing Phantom Works, MDA, Aerojet, NASA Langely, NASA Ames, SNC, Colorado University, AdamWorks
Potential Uses
- ISS and private space station supply and crew transfer
- Unmanned or piloted flights
- Tourism and commercial operations
- Orbital test bed for testing products and equipment
- Satellite repair/deployment
- Military variants
- Suborbital research
- 10,000 foot runway at less than two G’s
- Cargo down-mass from space station
- Rapid turnaround
Status
- Constructing the vehicle now
- “The difference between paper and actually touching something is amazing.”
- Expecting tests to begin next year
- Operational date: 2014
Jim Muncy
Space Frontier Foundation
- Many restrictions placed on NASA to conduct studies and evaluation on commercial crew before they can enter into contracts on commercial crew
- If you’re worried about exporting jobs to Russia and a big gap in U.S. flights, why put all these restrictions on commercial crew? Why make them not start for a year?
- Myth 1: The only way commercial will work if there’s a huge market.
- Not true.
- Gemini vs. Apollo standards
- Fixed-price contract
- Commercial companies always motivated to find customers – entrepreneurs will take risks
- Limited number of commercial Soyuz launches since 2001 is a matter of a lack of supply (available seats) rather than demand (billionauts)
- Military Personnel Transport Analog
- Military personnel get on a domestic flight to go to their military base in the United States
- They then get on a commercially chartered flight to go overseas
- Final leg of the flight is done on a military vehicle
- U.S. should be able to use a similar commercial system to get astronauts into LEO – government could handle transport beyond that point
Questions & Answers Session
Q. How to Define Success?
Philip McAlister: Multiple vehicles going to multiple locations in LEO
Mark Sirangelo: Ditto
Jim Muncy: Let private industry do the orbital work, frees up government to go beyond LEO.
Q: What are some of the key risks and biggest fears?
Philip McAlister: The biggest risks are NOT technical – companies are capable of doing it. The biggest risk is on the business side
Mark Sirangelo: The biggest challenge is not technical. Big uncertainty involves regulations and standards – building something now without really knowing what the final standards will be for operations and safety.
Jim Muncy
- “That the Republican party will screw it up.â€
- “That the White House will give up and not fight for its vision.â€
- “That we not do everything we can do to make it clear that this is a revolution but it’s not a revolution. This is how we do everything else. Why should it be different?â€
- When entitlements crunch come, there won’t be any money to invest – if it’s just about pork, there may not be enough money to seed anything.
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