• Vladislaw

    Like how the sizes are shown .. SLS the smallest .. out of sight out of mind. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/389d815438d6ee9c1b8a0618d7079ba0f0f315833908293a0049d75ac7592bc5.jpg

  • Jeff2Space

    The way he talks hurts my brain. But there are some points in there I agree with. The whole commercial partnership thing is quite important.

  • Jeff2Space

    What SpaceX model is that? Why does it look like it has fins on the bottom?

  • Andrew Tubbiolo

    Looks like the old Falcon 5 that never got built.

  • Vladislaw

    It is a falcon 9 with a dragon cargo I believe?

  • Larque

    Just remember, he doesn’t really mean anything he says. If you hate what he says, don’t worry too much – there are about six chances in seven he will reverse himself. If you love what he says, take little comfort – there are the same six chances in seven he will reverse himself. He takes both sides of most issues before lapsing into impotent silence.

    However, there remains that one chance in seven …

  • delphinus100

    I think it’s F9, but the very earliest concept of it…

  • delphinus100

    Over-simplified, but *essentially* correct…

    (But while seeing two Falcon stages land at once was ‘new,’ and ‘never
    seen before’ [and it *was* a sweet scene, to be sure], doing it one at a
    time has been happening for quite a while now, Don…)

  • Bulldog

    That is a model of Falcon 9 v1.0 I believe. It had a 3X3 square engine matrix with each of the four corner engines covered with a small fairing. They do look a bit like fins in this view.

  • windbourne

    Screw that.
    I would rather he starts talking highly of Bigelow and ilc Dover, and getting them funding so as to move away from ISS.

  • ThomasLMatula

    Yes. but the main stream media didn’t take notice until he launched his Roadster into space. How dare he send an automobile to pollute the purity of space. And they are still complaining about it… From Newsweek this week…

    http://www.newsweek.com/elon-musk-tesla-roadster-spacex-falcon-heavy-830114

    SpaceX Falcon Heavy: Elon Musk’s Tesla Roadster Could Contaminate Other Planets With Dangerous Earth Bacteria

    By Katherine Hignett On 3/5/18 at 7:01 AM

  • ThomasLMatula

    President Trump referred to the Falcon Heavy launch in reading Elon Musk’s Tweet on how China’s high Tariff makes it hard to sell U.S. cars there…

    https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=elon+musk&view=detail&mid=EB2681708D7E22F23501EB2681708D7E22F23501&FORM=VIRE

  • therealdmt

    Engine?!

  • Michael Halpern

    I say its a concentration aid

  • Michael Halpern

    One thing at a time, FH demo overwhelmed his synapses enough as it is,

  • Michael Halpern

    And we get to see 2 at a time again in couple months or so (and probably one down range) i love how hung up he was on price and the fact that it doesn’t have wings,

  • Jeff2Space

    Odd that the model on the desk is so old. The Block 5 should be flying soon.

  • ThomasLMatula

    He’s a planetary scientist not an engineer…

  • ThomasLMatula

    Yes, $90 million for a FH that launches 63 tons versus $1billion or so for a SLS that launches $70 tons. Folks outside of NASA notice things like that.

  • Jeff2Space

    Yeah. Makes Purdue look bad. That’s my alma mater (B.S. AAE). Ugh.

  • Jeff2Space

    Isn’t 70 tons the Block I payload? SLS supporters will point out that Block II will have an even higher payload. But, that won’t fly until the late 2020s.
    We’re 3 years away from first flight and 6 years away from the 2nd, which will be manned. Somehow I think that Block II will slip into the 2030s.

    Imagine where SpaceX and Blue Origin will be in 2030.

  • Michael Halpern

    Actually the 63 t is full expendable expected at starting price of around 150m, however partially expendable with 2 side boosters down range on droneships is about 10% less payload and will start at 95m

  • ThomasLMatula

    Yes, so true when you look at where SpaceX was in 2008.

    https://www.wired.com/2008/09/space-x-did-it/

    SpaceX Did It — Falcon 1 Made it to Space

    Aaron Rowe

    Date of Publication: 09.28.08

    Time of Publication: 4:26 pm.

  • Michael Halpern

    Personally I think the usefulness of a launch vehicle should be measured not just in lifting power, but in lift capacity per year average,

  • Michael Halpern

    Similar “fineness” to Atlas V so they look good next to each other, remember FT is quite a bit taller than most vehicles at 70m and is almost as wide as Atlas’s core

  • James

    I’m sure the RUssians and Chinese take ABSOLUTE care in geting things to space clean.

  • Paul451
  • Paul451

    I think Jeff means the vacuous way Trump speaks: “It’s really amazing what’s happening in regards to space and our country.”

  • Paul451

    but the main stream media didn’t take notice until he launched his Roadster into space.

    Oh bullshit. The first landing got wall-to-wall coverage. Musk gets interviewed on every mainstream chat show he cares to answer.

  • Michael Vaicaitis

    motor and engine are synonyms, but yes it appears to imply the mistaken belief that it’s one those internal combustion teslas

  • Michael Vaicaitis

    i’m not an engineer either, but being aware that teslas are electric is hardly rocket science

  • Bulldog

    It never flew in that livery. That being said, all the early artwork depicted a black and white vehicle and their ground demonstrator’s base and interstage section were black unpainted carbon fiber.

  • Jeff2Space

    As I’ve heard others describe it, it’s nothing but a “word salad”. There might be some good ingredients in there, but they’re all tossed together randomly.

  • ThomasLMatula

    Really, you have a content analysis to support that? And the crowd estimates from the earlier launches? Here is the estimate for the FH launch.

    https://www.floridatoday.com/story/tech/science/space/2018/02/06/spacex-falcon-heavy-launch-brings-back-excitement-space-lovers/313120002/

    “Hundreds of people descended on Jetty Park in Cape Canaveral, the pier at Cocoa Beach and Space View Park in Titusville to witness a SpaceX Falcon Heavy rocket blast off from Kennedy Space Center. An estimated 100,000 tourists traveled from Nebraska, Idaho, Colorado, Delaware, Wisconsin and even farther to catch the spectacular view.”

    Sure all the space outlets covered his earlier flight, but not the ones non-space advocates get their news from.

  • ThomasLMatula

    It says something about how routine SpaceX launches are that the space blogs ignored the 50th launch of the Falcon 9 this week. But Teslarati has posted a composite of the 50 launches with this article.

    https://www.teslarati.com/spacex-three-launches-week-six-launches-month/

    SpaceX aims for 3 rocket launches in a single week, 6 launches in 1 month

    by Eric Ralph
    Posted on March 8, 2018